That elders are appointed by holy spirit is the most fanciful of fantasies!
Nicholaus Kopernicus
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How many "leave the truth" because of the behaviour of harsh elders?
by stuckinarut2 injust wondering how many are assisted to wake up after experiencing harsh treatment from "the loving shepherds of the congregation"?.
perhaps some were starting to wake up, and such behaviour or treatment gave them the push to leave?.
as jesus supposedly said "come to me all who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
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How many "leave the truth" because of the behaviour of harsh elders?
by stuckinarut2 injust wondering how many are assisted to wake up after experiencing harsh treatment from "the loving shepherds of the congregation"?.
perhaps some were starting to wake up, and such behaviour or treatment gave them the push to leave?.
as jesus supposedly said "come to me all who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
I too departed due to aberrant behaviour on the part of the BoE. On the 3rd such occasion I departed the congregation. I just cannot tolerate abuse.
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JW "Apostates" - Toronto International Film Festival
by Nicholaus Kopernicus infound this in variety website..... .
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/cornerstone-films-worldwide-sales-jehovahs-witness-film-apostasy-1202536715/.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
Found this in Variety website.....
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WTBTS of Britain selling another Kingdom Hall
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inwhile having a sojourn in se england yesterday (bank holiday weekend) i noticed this a few meters from the entrance to richmond park.... .
this is the kingdom hall of the richmond park congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
i checked the website of the estate agent (bonsors) and there is no mention of the property or the price.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
While having a sojourn in SE England yesterday (bank holiday weekend) I noticed this a few meters from the entrance to Richmond Park....
This is the Kingdom Hall of the Richmond Park congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. I checked the website of the estate agent (Bonsors) and there is no mention of the property or the price. Following a few phone calls, I learned that this congregation is destined to utilise a Kingdom Hall in Tolworth. However, the website of JW's still has Richmond Park congregation listed at the Kingston upon Thames address - so no moving as yet...
This kindom hall should fetch a good price as Kingston upon Thames is a costly area! I suspect that many will resent having to move to Tolworth. But what does the WTBTS of Britain care? They have God's unreserved blessing and can do what they wan't - consistent with the GBoJW's preferences mind you!
Will your Kingdom Hall be next? Where will you have to travel to? Don't forget to budget for the extra distance! No trough in contributions acceptable!
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Leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses video
by Nicholaus Kopernicus ina friend sent me this link to a very interesting video.
more adverse publicity for the wtbts.
(apologies if already posted).
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A Friend sent me this link to a very interesting video. More adverse publicity for the WTBTS. (Apologies if already posted).
http://www.citynews.ca/video/2017/08/10/video-leaving-the-jehovahs-witnesses/
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
Just one picture is worth......
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There are only 4 ways to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses
by new boy inthere are only four ways of leaving the jehovah’s witnesses.
so there are four ways that could lead to shunning.
i say “could” because options three and four has some loopholes.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
I'm engaged in option 3. I only attend meetings occasionally. I no longer submit reports. I don' t think a BoE would haul me in for a discussion. They tried that and I told them: "Jehovah is my shepherd. I shall lack nothing".(Ps 23:1)
Additionally, in Britain you are protected by harassment and stalking legislation and by data protection legislation.
Should I be wrong and the BoE try to engage me against my wishes I would point out "Caesar's Law" to them. In the remote likelihood that I end up disfellowshipped then I'd no longer have any motivation to be a good chap and remain quiet. I'd give them repeated lessons on the practical application of wrath!
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WTBTS of Britain - in the deepest of holes!
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthe britain branch of jw’s has been afforded significant but involuntary exposure in the media recently.
this is principally because of the investigation of the charities commission in a congregation in the suburbs of manchester as well as an investigation into the britain branch of jw’s itself.
if a job is being done well, it normally withstands scrutiny.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
The Britain branch of JW’s has been afforded significant but involuntary exposure in the media recently. This is principally because of the investigation of the Charities Commission in a congregation in the suburbs of Manchester as well as an investigation into the Britain Branch of JW’s itself.
If a job is being done well, it normally withstands scrutiny. For many years, I have noted the WTBTS’s message and exhortation to brothers and sisters to be make application of Romans 13:1,2 – “Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God….. Therefore, whoever opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of god; those who have taken a stand against it will bring judgement against themselves.”
A friend of mine sent me some links about the WTBTS of Britain being in the news. Well, I thought I couldn’t be shocked anymore! Probably you are aware of these news items, but here they are for you just in case….
Victoria Derbyshire TV programme and shunning....
BBC News - JW's let paedophile interrogate victims....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=qh1KIZzHFfg
BBC Radio 4 - Sunday programme.
Kathleen Hallisey a lawyer for survivors and Harvey Grenville, Head of Investigations and Enforcement at the Charity Commission...... (forward to about 33 minutes).....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08z97zy
What is revealed in these documentaries and news items is truly shocking and egregious. No apologies like that offered by the RC Church, the Church of England, and the Methodist Church. Remember that exhortation to the rank and file (Romans 13:1,2)?
My assessment….
They have sought to avoid scrutiny rather than withstand it! They have trampled over their own advice based on Romans 13:1,2 and sought to obstruct / frustrate the due process and functioning of the "higher authorities"
The WTBTS of Britain exemplify that which is cold, remote, focused on and preoccupied with self. It is far far removed from any paradigm of love which it superficially projects of itself. They are the very ones who demonstrate “having a form of Godly devotion but proving false to it’s power…” (2 Tim 3:5). No wonder many in Britain are now turning away as the Bible suggests.
In its most recent yearbook, the WTBTS of Britain reports a publisher increase of a mere 26 despite just under 3000 being baptised in the same period. I look forward to what the next report states.
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A WTF Moment While In the WTS
by Searching inhas anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".
for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.
it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
My WTF moment was not as a result of what any individual said, but what I saw. It was at the last RC held at Twickenham RFU Stadium. Other convention sites which would normally have been available were cancelled that year. The WTBTS de cided to concentrate on fewer venues to save money perhaps?
But back to my WTF moment. I stepped off the public transport and saw all these convention flags mounted on the lamp posts outside the stadium. A significant number of the flags had the miserable countenance of a governing body member on them. I was really shocked at the conceit of such a portrayal. This year I was less shocked when I saw a gb member on the convention programme.
I no longer attend conventions.
I no longer contribute money.
I no longer submit reports.
I rarely attend meetings.
Yes, the GB are truly repellant.
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THOUGHTS OF CHAIRMAN ANTHONY MORRIS III
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inwe decided to add the graphic showing my name and position so that you are all made aware that i'm a big cheese among jehovah's witnesses.
for example, i'm not backward about being forward!
so when i made a speech against wearing tight pants some thought i'd be deleted from the governing body!
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Nicholaus Kopernicus
We decided to add the graphic showing my name and position so that you are all made aware that I'm a big cheese among Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'd like to tell you a little about myself. For example, I'm not backward about being forward! I say it like I see it. So when I made a speech against wearing tight pants some thought I'd be deleted from the Governing Body! Nope! No chance! We're unified. That's why we show exemplary brothers in the Watchtower wearing regular pants. So what I say goes! The other reason I'm still here is because we learn from the past. When we got rid of a Governing Body member in the past, he ended up writing two books about us. So we're not keen on the internecine scenarios that those apostates blog about! We don't give up on each other, see!
So when you're at the don't give up convention you'd better not give up either. Don't give up venerating us, recruiting more members, and most of all, don't give up giving us your money! You've been told!
Just look at how I benefit from your giving us money. I'm sartorial in every way and not shy about saying so. Look at how much I've widened out with the help of your money. Yes! I really do eat well at your expense. I'm really happy receiving all this. I know you're even happier giving! Not one of the Governing Body is underweight! We're all a good size!
We're busy too. We like to supervise others and give the nod to watchtower articles which tell you how to live your lives. After all, we're shepherds and you all are just sheep. That's what we're supposed to do! Just be obedient to us and you'll be OK.
Don't listen to those who say that you are followers of men. If you do then you're spiritually weak as you're listening to apostates! As president Trump would say - "they're losers"! Like us, president Trump is a good size and sartorial too. But that's as far as it goes as the Governing Body is politically neutral. This means that we only govern you sheep. The governments govern the others. The others vote. But we're neutral and don't vote. Anyways - you all are just sheep and governed by us so you don't need to vote. We have that in common with those middle Eastern countries - many of them don't vote and they're OK. So not voting is nothing new. Anyways - you all are just sheep so I don't know why I bother to explain this.
Just go to meetings, give money, recruit more sheep and you'll be OK! I said so! You got to listen to us shepherds! You got to be loyal! You got to be obedient! Just saying!